Openreach Officially Name the Next 170 UK FTTP Rollout Areas
Openreach (BT) has today officially added another 170 new towns and villages (covering 1.5 million premises) to the UK rollout plan of their 1Gbps Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) broadband ISP network, which are all the same as those we published last month (here). The news comes as they reach 6 million premises passed.
The operator’s full fibre build has now covered 6 million UK homes and businesses (1.9 million were added in 2020/21), which at the last count was running at a build rate of c.47,300 premises per week and should peak at c.75,000 (i.e. roughly 4 million premises per year). The service can be ordered via various ISPs, such as BT, Sky Broadband, TalkTalk, Vodafone, Giganet and many more (Openreach FTTP ISP Choices).
The latest additions to their rollout are all pencilled in to occur between now and December 2026, which is a frustratingly vague build window (i.e. this discourages interest from AltNets that might have been able to build more quickly). Some of those locations will be waiting nearly 4-5 years and Openreach’s list tends to be considered tentative, which reflects the caveat that they could still remove areas if some become too expensive.
However, once completed, Openreach’s commercial FTTP rollout will still leave around 20% of premises unserved by their full fibre network, although no doubt some of those will be tackled by alternative network providers (as is already the case in quite a few areas). Meanwhile, for locations with no gigabit connectivity options or related plans, the Government’s £5bn Project Gigabit will attempt to help fill the gap.
The Q4 2021 FTTP Rollout Update
A few of the “new” areas listed below are also being targeted by alternative full fibre network operators, such as CityFibre, Jurassic Fibre and others. Some also have a tiny bit of FTTP from Openreach already, despite not previously having been named on their plans, until now.
Clive Selley, Openreach CEO, said:
“Reaching six million homes and businesses with Full Fibre represents nearly a quarter of our total build target so is a significant milestone and underpins our commitment to build the largest and best Full Fibre network in the UK.
We’re building Full Fibre faster, at lower cost and higher quality than anyone else in the UK and that is testimony to our engineers and build partners who are working flat-out to deliver this life-changing technology to rural, urban and suburban communities all over the country and we’re delighted to be fleshing out our plans with more details about where we’ll be building.
More than a million customers are already enjoying our most revolutionary and reliable broadband ever and that number is growing all the time. That’s a great start, but there are millions more who could connect today – so I would urge people to check out our website to see when we’re coming to your street.”
The latest list covers some 1.5 million homes and businesses across both urban and rural locations including: Bridgend, East Kilbride, Felixstowe, Grantham, Grimsby, Guildford, Inverness, Kidderminster, Lincoln, Lowestoft, Maidstone, Newton Abbot, North Finchley, Oldham, Port Talbot, Romford South, Rugby, Riding Mill, Scunthorpe, Stannington, Simonswood, Trowbridge and many more.
Take note that this will not be the last rollout announcement, as they still have a lot more areas to confirm in order to reach 25 million premises.
The 170 Additions to Openreach’s FTTP Rollout
Aberlady
ALFORD, GRAMPIAN
Andover
Armadale
Ashcott
Auchtermuchty
Aylesbury
Bampton
Bellshill
Biddenden
Birdham
Blackwater
Botesdale
Box
Brenchley
Bridge
Bridgend
Briton Ferry
Buckhaven
Buxton
Cambusnethan
Cardington
Carluke
Caversham
Charing
Chartham
Chatburn
Chilton Polden
Chirnside
Cloughton
Clovenfords
Coldingham
Comrie
Corby
Cruden Bay
Cumbernauld
Downhall
Drayton
Drymen
Dundee Baxter
Dundee Broughty Ferry
Dundee Claverhouse
East Harling
East Kilbride
Eaton Bray
Ecclefechan
Falfield
Falkland
Felixstowe
Feltwell
Ferndown
Fleggburgh
Folkestone
Ford
Forfar
Garelochhead
Gayton
Gorseinon
Grantham
Gravesend
Great Bentley
Great Massingham
Great Oakley
Greenock
Grimsby Tk Subs
Guildford
Ham Street
Havant
Hawk well
Headley Down
Hempnall
Hevingham
Hillington
Honingham
Honiton
Idmiston
Inverkeithing
Inverness Macdui
Irlam
Irvine
Kennford
Kennoway
Kessock
Kidderminster
Kippen
Knebworth
Langbank
Lauder
Letchworth
Leyburn
Lhanbryde
Lincoln Subs
Linlithgow
Lowestoft
Macclesfield
Maidstone
Milton Lee
Muir Of Ord
Musselburgh
Neath
Nelson
Newton Abbot
North Curry
North Finchley
North Trowbridge
Nuneham
Oldham
Overstrand
Painswick
Patrington
Paulerspury
Pencaitland
Philpstoun
Plumpton
Port Ellen
Port Patrick
Port Talbot
Portsoy
Puddletown
Ramsbottom
Reading Central
Reading Tilehurst
Rhu
Riding Mill
Romford South
Rossendale
Rothesay
Rubery
Rugby
Sawtry
Scunthorpe Subs
Seven Sisters
Shaw
Sidbury
Simonswood
Sittingbourne
Skewen
Stadhampton
Stannington
Stanton
Stevenage
Stoke Canon
Stow
Tamworth
Tarbert
Theale
Thornham
Thornhill
Thorpe
Tinto
Tollerton
Tottington
Totton
Trowbridge
Turves
Upper Largo
Washford
Watton at Stone
Weeley
West Runton
Whissendine
Whiting Bay
Wickham
Wickham Market
Wilmslow
Wimborne
Wishaw
Woking
Woolacombe
Woolley
Mark is a professional technology writer, IT consultant and computer engineer from Dorset (England), he also founded ISPreview in 1999 and enjoys analysing the latest telecoms and broadband developments. Find me on X (Twitter), Mastodon, Facebook and Linkedin.
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6 million. Not to be sniffed at.
Though of course it will be…
Just making announcement with out any real roll out schedule ids pretty meaningless and may be just to try to put off alt next
Openreach are only doing Blackwater because Zzoomm, trooli & more have already dug trenches and installed cabinets ready to connect customers. If the above hadn’t done it then Openreach wouldn’t be bothering, as soon as Zzoomm is accepting orders I’m ordering.
So the free market is working, then?
Rubbish. Trooli and Netomia are building around my local area (Canterbury, Sturry, Herne Bay, etc), they announced and started their builds after Openreach announced that they would be building there.
You’ll find Openreach will be covering the majority of the country in the next 5-10 years, regardless of any AltNet.
Amusingly paranoid.
Openreach is building to 25m homes so competition’s inevitable.
Surely alt-nets don’t expect to be able to build local monopolies.
Openreach dont use cabinets to build fttp
I assume operators are going there is a commercially sensible exchange where you might make a return on your investment
OR might as well just publish a list of every town in the UK they’re going to get to it eventually or not if they decide not to. These releases are worthless to consumers and as said detrimental to Alts and government subsidy schemes.
Absolutely, it’s not about competition, it’s about delivery of quality broadband within a reasonable time frame and not anything upto 5 years time. Openreach are very obviously trying to dissuade competition from alt nets and OFCOM should be on them like a ton of bricks
It does somewhat appear that way. A vague promise they may deliver something within 5 years is a looooong time to put up with 2-30 meg speeds.
Still, I am fond of BT’s service here, reliable as hell for years here (60-80meg even during peak hours, West London / Ealing area). I do find it comical this is fully urban London, but FTTP isn’t promised until 2026-2030 window.
Hope to see some good alt net competition in the pipeline. A bit of fear does wonders in the board room!
They already did, stating also what building phase they’d be in, I think ispreview posted the pdf a while back.
@GaryH completely agree, just announce them all in one go. I’m sure that’s what they are doing but bit by bit.
My town was on the last list many many months ago, on the Fibre Fast checker using postcode it still says no plans to upgrade the area, and on the Openreach map it is now at least showing in Yellow to be built between April 2022 and April 2025. So worst case it will have taken 5 years from date of announcement to becoming available, so why announce it so soon? They should just announce the areas at the time the engineers are there starting work.
Can you clarify, Mark? When Openreach talk of these ‘areas’ – are they referring to specific exchanges, or are these the groups of exchanges in an area? Selfishly, taking Folkestone – does that just mean the Folkestone exchange or the 4-5 exchanges that make up the Folkestone area e.g. Folkestone, Cheriton etc? I’ve never fully understood the granularity on these announcements.
@JS
The map here might help as it shows the mapped area.
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/where-when-building-ultrafast-full-fibre-broadband
How overly confusing and ambiguous does the Openreach key on that map continue to be?! Other than the green, for everyone else it may as well just say “we are coming at some point”.
That map is more than slightly strange. The colours in the key don’t match those used on the map. My area is marked as “coming between 2021 and 2026″…I think, assuming I’ve lined up the colours correctly…which is rather strange since I’ve been on BT FTTP for coming up to two years now and they completed the build not long after that.
There’s no reason for FTTP to be built out at exchange granularity as the fibre comes from a small number of OHPs (Openreach Handover Points) and not your local exchange.
Openreach’s lack of transparency on FTTC rollout was farcical….. they seem to have taken some feedback onboard as this time they are at least providing a map of areas. However the time scales quoted render the entire map pretty much pointless. By end of 2022 the entire UK map will be maroon with all eyes on December 2026.
Thanks Mark, and all. I hadn’t re-checked the map since the ‘leak’ but now official announcement.
Wonderful news, looks like they’re covering all exchanges in Folkestone apart from Cheriton where I’m connected. Looking at the coverage area on the map, our OHP will be at the Cheriton exchange so this less dense exchange than the main Folkestone one (17000 premises vs 4500 on mine) means it’s better commercially and for KPIs to hit that and move on. Not that I imagine many of the flats based around the town centre will take up full fibre, more thank likely a good chunk of the families in Cheriton might have. Still, seems a numbers game.
Why does Plusnet refuse to use an existing FTTP fibre. And insist on forcing me to use a VDSL line via copper
Because Plusnet don’t offer a fttp package as they’re a cheap service provider
Change to another ISP!
Are you married to Plusnet? If not, plenty of other ISPs to choose from on the Openreach network.
I moved from Plusnet to Zen – and the router they supplied me is so much better than the old crap Plusnet were pushing (even though the name is a bit odd – “Fritzbox”?). They also offer IPv6 (just have to email to be enabled) if you’re interested in that, unlike Plusnet. Static IP as standard too, unlike some other providers.
I can’t comment on their FTTP service (not available here) but I would expect it to be just as good!
‘those we leaked’? The list was online.
So vague all these announcements. Is this news helpful to anyone? The Downhall exchange is programmed for a 4 year window…. Is this news?
Now 2746 locations.
To see this in a proper perspective:
1)
There is nothing special about the Openreach announcement, no more so than an electric utility builds or maintains power lines, or a water company maintains water pipes. A telecom company is supposed to provide telecom services anyway, that’s what it’s there for.
2)
Openreach is more than a decade behind of where it should be with regards to fibre deployment.
@GN – Altnets are 30 years behind.
@The Facts: Which altnet had a nearly nationwide telecom infrastructure (ducts,poles,exchanges etc) 30 years ago, inherited from GPO? Which power altnet, or water altnet would build parallel infrastructures?
Your question shows you don’t understand the issue.
@GNewton
Once upon a time we were going to have nationwide fibre in the 90s…
If you haven’t read it: https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/world-of-tech/how-the-uk-lost-the-broadband-race-in-1990-1224784
I wish CityFibre would get their ruddy fingers out and complete their jobs like OR are. Not a single new live property all in 2021 at Newcastle
The concept isn’t anything new. Digital Subscriber Line, or DSL, uses existing telephone wire to bring internet connectivity to a home or office. This is accomplished by transmitting data at a higher frequency than the telephone service.
In the case of Powerline, AC power transfers at 50Hz or 60Hz, depending on your electrical system. Powerline transmits data between 2MHz and 86MHz but ignores the power-based frequencies.
The idea here is to provide network connectivity to devices outside the Wi-Fi range without draping Ethernet cables all through the home or office. The overall speed typically doesn’t match wired networking, and in some cases, Wi-Fi connections. But what Powerline offers over wireless is stability and less latency given the technology isn’t fighting with interfering signals.
Let’s get technical
Most Powerline kits provide two adapters, each with an Ethernet port. One device connects to an electrical outlet and tethers to a modem or router’s LAN port using an Ethernet cable. The second unit plugs into another electrical outlet near the device you want connecting to the network.
Without getting too technical with the hardware and software layers, the first adapter connected to your modem or router converts the Ethernet protocol (IEEE 802.3) it receives to the HomePlug AV2 protocol. That data is then “broadcasted” across the electrical wires, similar to how routers convert and broadcast wireless connectivity (IEEE 802.11). Instead of relying on antennas, adapters transmit through the Line and Neutral power connectors.
Previously, the Line and Neutral wires were only used for a single input and output (1×1). The HomePlug AV2 specification added the Ground wire, enabling MIMO transmissions and beamforming to support Ultra HD video transmissions. The adapter essentially transmits data using any two pairs, like Line and Ground or Line and Neutral (2×2).
All other adapters connected to the electrical system receive both power and data transmission. They filter out the latter, convert it all back to the Ethernet protocol, and push the network connection through the Ethernet port. Some Powerline adapters provide Wi-Fi connectivity too.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/everything-you-need-to-know-about-powerline-networking/
https://kitz.co.uk/adsl/adsl_technology.htm
Lower PLC-to-VDSL interference Mode is supported by MIMO powerline adapters only, such as series-8 and series-9. Actually, it will reduce the interference in circuits via disabling MIMO mode, so it may reduce the data transfer rate. Powerline products may interfere with devices such as lighting systems that have a dimmer switch or a touch-sensitive on/off feature, short wave radios, cable television system, VDSL devices, speakers, or other Powerline devices that do not follow the HomePlug AV/AV2 standard. Enable it will be helpful.
https://www.tp-link.com/uk/support/faq/2027/
TrueFibre – How is your self driven comment relevant to the post you’ve replied too? It seems you have randomly replied to a post trying to make yourself look clever which is not fooling anyone.
@A little advice says I just your using a VPN because the people running this website can track you. Your maybe using the name A little advice says but can track by IP Address and same goes to you as well Not Again says they can your IP Address
I hope your using a VPN because the people running this website can track you. Your maybe using the name A little advice says but can track by IP Address and same goes to you as well Not Again says they can your IP Address
@Old Dial Up days (aka TrueFibre) – Why do you hope I am using a VPN? Do you really think I have done something seriously wrong by calling out your post that had nothing to do with the post you replied too.
I am very happy that I am getting FTTP get rid of the Stupid VDSL2 technology that interferes with my Powerline Network. If I understand Powerline Adapters and VDSL2 that those use same frequency bands because Powerline adapters use between 2 and 86 MHz and VDSL2 FTTC Fibre to the cabinet uses 17 MHz. FTTP Fibre to the Premises on the other hand is immune to Electromagnetic interference aka EMI because it uses beams of light in binary.
Posting this rubbish again I see 🙁
Until recently I used powerline adapters with my FTTC connection without a problem.
It all depends setup with phone and power cables. For some the houses in my area the Openreach Master Socket is near a power socket. I can move the socket but it’s not my responsibility,
Trolling again I see. You just won’t let go
@TrueFibre
Not trolling just pointing out a fact
If you know your talking about why are you arguing about pure rubbish. I do understand I have background in IT
@TrueFibre
You really need to find yourself a more basic job then if this is your technical ability level.
You’re absolutely hilarious.
I have used Powerline with ADSL and g.fast without issue for years, the power socket is right by the master socket.
Not saying that TrueFibre is wrong, but my own experience differs. Can’t we all be right?
It’s depends on the models of Powerline adapters and house wiring setup
@TrueFibre
Quote “It all depends setup with phone and power cables. For some the houses in my area the Openreach Master Socket is near a power socket.”
The powerline adapter connects to an Ethernet socket on the router rather than to the Openreach / altnet master socket, are you sure that you’re configuring this correctly?
I know it connects to the router LMFAO
@TrueFibre
Excellent. Please explain then why you need a power socket near the Openreach master socket rather than near the router. And please also explain why you worry about the frequency of the VDSL signal when the power line adapters are sending Ethernet signals.
Sometimes the powerline adapters drop out sometimes the internet goes with it because powerline use the same frequency band as vdsl2 17 MHz and powerline 2 to 86 MHz. It may not affect everyone. And need a socket near the router.
You must be doing something wrong to have those issues.
There is a reason why TP-Link tells you all this what the do you not understand it depends on your house wiring and age of god damn house you people should know better. I’ll say it again. If your house is old and old cables your going have problems. It depends on your electrical system. Instead of trolling people why not do your research. Sitting behind a keyboard thinking about what god damn stupid to say. If your 10 year old and good electrical system you should be and if you have RCDs Circuit breaker.
Lower PLC-to-VDSL interference Mode is supported by MIMO powerline adapters only, such as series-8 and series-9. Actually, it will reduce the interference in circuits via disabling MIMO mode, so it may reduce the data transfer rate. Powerline products may interfere with devices such as lighting systems that have a dimmer switch or a touch-sensitive on/off feature, short wave radios, cable television system, VDSL devices, speakers, or other Powerline devices that do not follow the HomePlug AV/AV2 standard. Enable it will be helpful.
https://www.tp-link.com/uk/support/faq/2027/
There is a reason why TP-Link tells you all this what the do you not understand it depends on your house wiring and age of god damn house you people should know better. I’ll say it again. If your house is old and old cables your going have problems. It depends on your electrical system. Instead of trolling people why not do your research. Sitting behind a keyboard thinking about what god damn stupid to thing to say. If you have a 10 year old house and good electrical system you should be ok and if you have RCDs or Circuit breaker. I have spelling problems I know what I am talking about.
Powerline AV1 uses 2 to 30 MHz
Powerline AV2 uses 30 to 86 MHz
Powerline AV2 with MIMO uses 2 to 86 MHz
https://community.plus.net/t5/Fibre-Broadband/FTTC-PowerLine-Ethernet-A-Warning/td-p/1230268 Other people are reporting the same issues
Nah, copper wiring is copper wiring it doesn’t matter about its age as its still copper wiring do you get my drift?
You must be doing something wrong.
Obviously you don’t understand Technology. Electromagnetic interference aka EMI attenuation sound to noise a ratio radio interference VDSL2 Interference electrical noise.
Can someone advise what the “Subs” bit means?
I’ve been awaiting news this is coming to Lincoln for years, but don’t understand why my town says “Lincoln Subs”?
Probably means the suburbs
I believe they will be building to the majority of Lincoln, including the north of Lincoln, and south down to about Bracebridge. You’ll probably have to wait a while if you live very close to the center as well, some of those parts are still ADSL only. I’ve seen OR doing some spine works around those parts of Lincoln but I don’t know if this is to supply any FTTP service to consumers.
I think you’re out of luck for OR if you live in the Birchwood, Hykeham, Skellingthorpe, Cherry, Washingborough areas, but I think CityFibre should announce the start of their build soon-ish that may will include some of those areas.
Hear Hear !!! FTTP coming to your area soon!! i mean very soon!! give or take 5 – 6 years, we will build Britain if takes 10 years well get there eventually…. so the dream continues across the U.K.
Grimsby Tk Subs – what’s a TK sub? Have searched high and low for TK, a sub we could at least have a guess at but a TK sub?!!
From the early days of the PSTN, a trunk sub(scriber) was one whose line appeared on an operator’s position for direct connection – emergency services and the like. Instead of using a dial to make the onward connection the operator would just plug the outbound cord into the appropriate position and connect it directly to the inbound call.
This will be an exchange building that used to host an operator centre that has never been renamed.
125us that is absolutely fascinating, and as a person who worked in that building albeit during ATE days rather than manual I have learned something wonderful thank you! It always fascinated me some of the terminology even in the 90s during my time there that an operator terminal was referred to as a position, when we had to go into not ready we called it make busy, then the acronyms left over from the civil service days of GPO – I still remember VIF was a screen of basically random info about a particular route that didn’t fit in anywhere else but it was a throwback to paper index cards called visual information file goodness me.
Counting down the days to 2026….
Make that 2026+++
thats the LATEST time it’ll be completed, it’ll most likely be sooner
Spare a thought for us in MDUs. I hear Notting Hill Genesis have put all FTTP / FTTB installations on hold. Since most of my local area is now wired for FTTP that’s rather disappointing…
Yay – another announcement and another load of towns in my area with either virgin media or another altnet provider have been added and nothing for my town yet again (we have no VM/altnet/decent 4g). I sometimes think someone at openreach hates me.
Don’t worry mate we’ll get it by 2030 !! fingers crossed and everything else..
More likely 2040 are completed!
All the fibre was pulled about 4-6 weeks ago. The team even came and knocked on my door and explained as they needed to lift covers blocking my drive for a couple of hours. One even said “you are one of the lucky ones getting fast internet” but as yet they have all finished and disappeared but nothing available to order yet 🙁
Relative had similar. It was a good 6-8 months before the service became available to order after fibre had been pulled to the point directly outside their house, and a few months more before Openreach did a letter drop off the road to advise that FTTP was available to order from isps (without them naming any, which seemed fair. Wasn’t pushing BT for example), so you may still be in for several months wait yet.
Does anyone know once Openreach have been round and cleared the ducts and then pulled Blue Nylon cord through to the front of the property, How long does it normally take until the FTTP becomes active ?
Between 1 week and 5 years.
@Lou that made me laugh.
Openreach ran the fibre into our estate 18 months ago. Out of frustration I emailed the local councillor 18 month later asking for information. That was last week. The councillor was useless. Openreach still haven’t connected the houses to the fibre. Dont hold your breath!
Yes we all welcome fttp broadband. What you won’t welcome, if you live in my village of Menstrie, Clackmannanshire, is the delivery of fttp by 9 metre creosote poles, installed wherever Openreach want to put them (outside your front gate e.g.) and the fibre wired in by overhead wires. We have around 10 objections in, but only one had been acknowledged. Openreach deliver fttp in the cheapest way possible and don’t care about the aesthetics of the neighbourhood they are operating in.
One trick they use is to install a pole beside a BT pavement hub, then channel a cable from the hub, run it up the pole and deliver it out by wire to each subscriber. Have a look at my Fb page Menstrie Against Telegraph Poles for picture of what my happen to your village.
They could stick one outside my front door for all I care.
They don’t look out of place in the photo’s either.
‘One trick they use is to install a pole beside a BT pavement hub, then channel a cable from the hub, run it up the pole and deliver it out by wire to each subscriber’
That’s not a trick alan, that’s how it’s done. How much manpower/time/cost do you think it would take to take an individual duct to your boundary , dig a 2ft trench through your garden , through the rockery and into the house? Or do you have a mono-block front garden? Even better. Now times your hamlet/ estate by 10’s of thousands and you get the picture.
Some estates/places will get the duct as there is no other option, new builds obviously won’t have poles.
I refuse to believe poles have been put in front of driveways or garden gates.
It’s a piece of wood in the ground and i’m sure you’ll get over it.
@Tam
I’ve seen _two_ stories about badly sited poles in the news – one was in front of a proposed driveway (no dipped curb application yet, fence still up) and the owner was annoyed they now couldn’t without paying to have the pole moved.
The other was actually in someone’s front garden! And it was removed quick sharp – after it hit the press. Think it was unfenced? So an understandable mistake, though it still shouldn’t have happened!
I find it unlikely that the objections @Alan mentions are genuine.
Not to mention, internet/phone is already delivered by wires on poles in most areas – it’s no different!
Well if it’s anything like HS2 rollout.. expect something around 2525 if man is still alive.
At least it’s being laid right now in my village. 5 or 6 months with luck.
‘Well if it’s anything like HS2 rollout.. expect something around 2525 if man is still alive.
At least it’s being laid right now in my village. 5 or 6 months with luck.‘
Passing 4million homes a year, do the maths.
Despite build already started in your area, congrats for still managing to moan about it.
Yet again biggest town and surrounding area in Bedfordshire is forgotten about….
Luton? City fibre is coming your way, there recruiting so hopefully not too long but yeh shocking. No Dunstable either yet Eaton Bray is on there.
I am on Wideopen telephone exchange in Newcastle and they are doing FTTP at the moment here and yet it’s not listed on any of their updates – I went to the checker and they are indeed coming to my address soon. They’ve been laying fibre cables for weeks
I see Lowestoft are on the list after having CityFibre installed to every property.
I dont see how it makes financial sense for BT when there is a competitor than can offer a better service at a lower price.
Classis case of overbuilding, great for competition but pants for areas with no fibre at all.
CityFibre to every property in Lowestoft…odd did look at some last night where it is not available.
Yet again, not a single place near me!
My town is on the list and since then there as been a LOT of Openreach vehicles in the area.
Broadband in UK is terrible, move from a coast little town in north Spain 12 years ago, come to Uk and i though, “wow this is speed” but now my mum back in home, went from 1Mb speed to 600Mb in the last 3 years, defenely we loosing the race when Spain is doing better than us already, they don’t dig the streets, in north Spain they bring th FTTP in the street post like the old telephone lines with a better structure, so don’t need to dig the streets.