Network access provider Openreach (BT) has today revealed the next batch of 142 new locations to benefit from their ongoing deployment of a new multi-Gigabit capable Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) broadband ISP network, which has just officially reached the half-way point by covering over 12.5 million UK premises.
The rollout, which is expected to cost up to £15bn and – as above – has already covered 12.5m UK premises (inc. 3.6m homes in the hardest to reach rural areas), is currently running at a build rate of c.60,000 premises per week. More than 4 million customers have also already adopted the service via various different ISPs (30k new orders every week), which gives the operator a strong take-up rate of 33%.
The latest announcement means that around 3,000 towns, cities, boroughs, villages and hamlets are now included in the company’s build programme. The 142 new locations being announced today cover around 1.4 million additional homes and businesses, including in some of the hardest to reach, most rural communities in the UK, as well as a few urban locations.
For example, some of the new exchanges include York, Crawley (West Sussex), Portsmouth Central, Clydebank, Summertown (Oxford) and many more. We’ve included a full list at the bottom of this article, as well as an infographic.
Clive Selley, CEO of Openreach, said:
“This is a national infrastructure project that’s a genuine success story. We’re delivering engineering on an epic scale, on time and on budget – and that’s thanks to a supportive policy environment which has led to huge investment and competition throughout the UK’s telecoms sector.
From a standing start just a few years ago, we’ve now made this life-changing technology available to 12.5 million premises and counting and we’re building faster than any operator I’m aware of in Europe.
Our build rate is still accelerating and it’ll take us half the time to reach our next 12.5 million. But we won’t be stopping there. Ultimately, we’ll reach up to 30 million premises by the end of the decade – unlocking a raft of economic and social benefits by supporting new models of commerce, healthcare and public services.”
Openreach’s website is currently in the process of being updated to reflect the latest changes, including via their map and their latest build plan. The operator typically aims to update the build information on their website at a minimum of every 3 months to adjust timings and add new locations as necessary.
The service itself, once live, can be ordered via various ISPs, such as BT, Sky Broadband, TalkTalk, Vodafone and many more (Openreach FTTP ISP Choices) – it is not currently an automatic upgrade, although some ISPs (e.g. TalkTalk) have now started to do free automatic upgrades as older copper-based services and lines are slowly withdrawn.
However, Openreach’s commercial build will still leave some premises unserved by their full fibre network, although many of those should hopefully be tackled by alternative network providers (as is already the case in quite a few areas). The Government’s £5bn Project Gigabit will also attempt to help fill the gaps.
List of 142 New Full Fibre Build Locations
Exchange name (public) | Exchange Location | County |
Portsmouth Central | Portsmouth | Hampshire |
Upton Park | Greater London – Newham | Greater London |
Albert Dock | Greater London – Newham | Greater London |
Crawley | Crawley (West Sussex) | West Sussex |
Erdington | Birmingham | West Midlands |
York | York | North Yorkshire |
Nottingham Longbow | Nottingham | Nottinghamshire |
Leytonstone | Greater London – Waltham Forest | Greater London |
South Harrow | Greater London – Harrow | Greater London |
Catford | Greater London – Lewisham | Greater London |
Walthamstow | Greater London – Waltham Forest | Greater London |
Bromley | Greater London – Bromley | Greater London |
Basford | Nottingham | Nottinghamshire |
Sydenham | Greater London – Bromley | Greater London |
Cosham | Portsmouth | Hampshire |
Perivale | Greater London – Ealing | Greater London |
Fallings Park | Wolverhampton | West Midlands |
Downend | Bristol | Gloucestershire |
Birchwood | Lincoln | Lincolnshire |
Portsmouth North | Portsmouth | Hampshire |
Coatbridge | Coatbridge | North Lanarkshire |
Middlesbrough | Middlesbrough | North Yorkshire |
Huntingdon | Huntingdon | Cambridgeshire |
Beulah Hill | Greater London – Croydon | Greater London |
Beckenham | Greater London – Bromley | Greater London |
Fulham | Greater London – Hammersmith and Fulham | Greater London |
Marine | Southend-on-Sea | Essex |
East | Birmingham | West Midlands |
Fleet | Fleet | Hampshire |
Liberton | Edinburgh | City of Edinburgh |
Hatfield | Hatfield | Hertfordshire |
Elstree | Borehamwood | Hertfordshire |
Lemington | Newcastle upon Tyne | Tyne and Wear |
Canvey Island | Canvey Island | Essex |
Greenford | Greater London – Ealing | Greater London |
Broadstone | Poole | Poole |
Wisbech | Wisbech | Cambridgeshire |
Hainault | Greater London – Redbridge | Greater London |
Clydebank | Clydebank | West Dunbartonshire |
Beaumont | Leicester | Leicestershire |
Burgess Hill | Burgess Hill | West Sussex |
West Malling | Ditton | Kent |
Belstead | Ipswich | Suffolk |
Rainham | Greater London – Havering | Greater London |
Glenfield | Leicester | Leicestershire |
Johnstone | Johnstone | Renfrewshire |
Croftfoot | Glasgow | Glasgow City |
Chelsea | Greater London – Kensington and Chelsea | Greater London |
Cleethorpes | Cleethorpes | Lincolnshire |
Edgware | Greater London – Harrow | Greater London |
Potters Bar | Potters Bar | Hertfordshire |
Mill Hill | Greater London – Barnet | Greater London |
Whitton | Ipswich | Suffolk |
Gatley | Greater Manchester – Stockport | Greater Manchester |
Alexandria | Alexandria | West Dunbartonshire |
Summertown | Oxford | Oxfordshire |
Bingley | Bingley | West Yorkshire |
Great Yarmouth | Great Yarmouth | Norfolk |
Vange | Basildon | Essex |
Narborough | Leicester | Leicestershire |
Brookwood | Woking | Surrey |
Dumbarton | Dumbarton | West Dunbartonshire |
Hoyland | Hoyland | South Yorkshire |
Chalfont Drive | Nottingham | Nottinghamshire |
West Wickham | Greater London – Bromley | Greater London |
Denton Burn (DNB) | Newcastle upon Tyne | Tyne and Wear |
Louth | Louth | Lincolnshire |
Romsey | Romsey | Hampshire |
Yaxley | Peterborough | Cambridgeshire |
Uddingston | Uddingston | North Lanarkshire |
Peacehaven | Peacehaven | East Sussex |
Stanmore | Greater London – Harrow | Greater London |
Oadby | Leicester | Leicestershire |
Duntocher | Clydebank | West Dunbartonshire |
Kidlington | Kidlington | Oxfordshire |
Rawmarsh | Rawmarsh | South Yorkshire |
Bannockburn | Stirling | Stirling |
Bushey Heath | Bushey | Hertfordshire |
North Edgware | Greater London – Barnet | Greater London |
Maltby | Maltby | South Yorkshire |
Ashby De La Zouch | Ashby-de-la-Zouch | Leicestershire |
Rectory | Sutton Coldfield | West Midlands |
Carterton | Carterton | Oxfordshire |
Holytown | Motherwell | North Lanarkshire |
Barnby Dun | Doncaster | South Yorkshire |
Clay Cross | Clay Cross | Derbyshire |
Cowdenbeath | Cowdenbeath | Fife |
Boness | Bo’ness | Falkirk |
Ilkley | Ilkley | West Yorkshire |
Toll Bar | Coventry | West Midlands |
Old Whittington | Chesterfield | Derbyshire |
Snodland | Snodland | Kent |
Polegate | Polegate | East Sussex |
Sloane | Greater London – City of Westminster | Greater London |
Archers Court | Dover | Kent |
Pocklington | Pocklington | East Riding of Yorkshire |
Midcalder | East Calder | West Lothian |
Milngavie | Milngavie | East Dunbartonshire |
Arkwright | Nottingham | Nottinghamshire |
Radlett | Radlett | Hertfordshire |
Denny | Denny | Falkirk |
Amesbury | Amesbury | Wiltshire |
Sudbrooke Park | Cherry Willingham | Lincolnshire |
Ampthill | Ampthill | Bedfordshire |
Bonnybridge | Bonnybridge | Falkirk |
Thrybergh | Rotherham | South Yorkshire |
Sutton Elms | Broughton Astley | Leicestershire |
Gorebridge | Gorebridge | Midlothian |
Brediland | Paisley | Renfrewshire |
Fairmilehead | Edinburgh | City of Edinburgh |
Castle Donington | Castle Donington | Leicestershire |
Radcliffe On Trent | Nottingham | Nottinghamshire |
Woodborough | Calverton | Nottinghamshire |
Tidworth | Tidworth | Wiltshire |
Rothwell | Rothwell | Northamptonshire |
Cotgrave | Cotgrave | Nottinghamshire |
Belgravia | Greater London – City of Westminster | Greater London |
Kilbarchan | Johnstone | Renfrewshire |
Wendover | Wendover | Buckinghamshire |
Lochgelly | Lochgelly | Fife |
Studley | Redditch | Warwickshire |
Hethersett | Hethersett | Norfolk |
Durrington | Bulford Camp | Wiltshire |
Howden | Howden | East Riding of Yorkshire |
Freeland | Long Hanborough | Oxfordshire |
Dymchurch | Dymchurch | Kent |
Wilton | Wilton (Wiltshire) | Wiltshire |
Brampton | Brampton (Carlisle) | Cumbria |
Denham | Greater London – Hillingdon | Buckinghamshire |
North Cave | South Cave | East Riding of Yorkshire |
Leven | Leven | East Riding of Yorkshire |
Ludgershall | Ludgershall (Wiltshire) | Wiltshire |
Cleland | Cleland | North Lanarkshire |
Wing | Wing | Buckinghamshire |
Gilberdyke | Brough (East Riding of Yorkshire) | East Riding of Yorkshire |
Winchburgh | Winchburgh | West Lothian |
Germoe | Goldsithney | Cornwall |
Bulford Camp | Bulford Camp | Wiltshire |
Hadlow | Hadlow | Kent |
Bickington | Coldeast | Devon |
Gotham | Clifton (City of Nottingham) | Nottinghamshire |
Salsburgh | Salsburgh | North Lanarkshire |
Of course they’ll overbuild on the likes of city fibre, community fibre and netomnia rather than picking locations where no one is doing. And there are many of them like Basingstoke, Harlow, Southport..
They will suffer losses, esp going into established territories like Newham where CF has done it several years ago
Exactly, Newham is 100% CF Terf only now, there’s no point having OR build out as they are not going to get people to switch over as CF is legitimately cheaper and better for Newham, and I’m saying that as a resident who begged them to come here, 2 years later and 0 LOS incidents, not much in the way of price increases. And just an honesty reliable service
They likely have seen the amount of unblocking/duct repair work CFLs subcontractors have done in Newham and thought “well, if they’ve cleared the path from some chambers to poles, let’s make use of that”. Not a bad thing if they were going to end up installing anyway tbh
Altnets cherry-pick the areas which are cheapest and easiest to build. Of course Openreach and will also want to build in those places.
They won’t regain every customer who’s already moved to an altnet, but they’ll pick up everyone who has stuck on copper with OR, and they also have the advantage of most of the biggest retail names, including BT/EE, Plusnet and Sky.
You do have to credit the altnets with putting a rocket up OR and VM to modernise their networks. But they’re always going to be an also-ran against those two, even if they consolidate to form a third major network. It’s altnets overbuilding other altnets which is the biggest waste of resources – I wonder if competition rules allow them to coordinate their builds?
Plenty in Newham and all over London that area still on FTTC. Plenty of market to fight for.
Typical that they ignore installing in Horton (Village) SL3 postcode, who is still are on a full copper cable system from the exchange all the way to the properties. With downloads download/upload speeds of 1.5mb and 0.5 upload.
What a joke! All other areas around have multiple FTTC/FTTP networks.
Could we perhaps sort these lists for ease of perusal? By exchange name or location makes sense to me.
Feel like I’m doing a word search.
Thank you
Are Openreach allergic to Farnham?
No need, Swish Fibre already did Farnham 🙂
@Jack Not all of it.
If the much touted altnet consolidation is going to happen it needs to happen as quickly as possible, preferably in my view into a third national network with a single wholesale platform (as much as practically possible) otherwise I think Openreach and Virgin Media are going to emerge from this almost as dominant as they are now.
Having been through the list Wales does not appear to exist.
..and yet:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/12/openreach-extend-fttp-to-44k-premises-in-wales-under-gov-contract.html
It’s all gone a little slower in Wales though now right 🙂 at least 10MPH slower.
Sorry.. I just had to comment.
It would be a good joke if it wasn’t more sad authoritarianism. Truth is that these things never happen in silos. Policies get tested out for compliance before getting imported elsewhere. That grandma level speed limit sure generated a lot of buzz among the population but not enough to generate big protests and time will tell if people will actually vote labour out, same goes to the dramatic tax hikes in Scotland
But yes, the Welsh labour govt is literally and purposefully slowing down rollout
Sam: Wales is behind England in full fibre because it’s more sparsely populated hence the commercial case for build isn’t as persuasive. Give or take 150 people per square kilometre versus 440.
Nothing to do with authoritarianism, compliance or anything else, and can’t be laid at the feet of the Senedd as while streetworks are devolved the national rules are almost identical to England’s, and approval of individual streetworks is a local authority competence, not a national one.
Still if you know better than Openreach, Virgin Media, Netomnia, Ogi, etc, please explain how the Senedd is intentionally slowing down the builds for those of us that are apparently hard of thinking. It’d be an interesting choice given if they were planning on subsidising a nationalised build they’d be having to jump through their own hoops under law.
Most of the Welsh population live in the dense south, yet only now is Netomnia building in Swansea
The jokes are obviously in reference to the speed limit of 20mph. It is sick tyranny and the Welsh economy will pay a heavy toll, not just rollouts. This is a very well studied fact. The quicker someone gets from point A to point B, the better it is for the economy, the inverse applies
It is basic common sense an elementary student can figure out. People need to get rid of Labour
I tend to agree. I tend to find that ten years of any political party rule tends to end up in catastrophe and nepotism. Welsh Labour are currently in that odd situation, where they are implementing policies that directly hurt their core historic working class voters, while the tories are pandering to those same disillusion working class voters (not 100% sure that’s working enough for a revolt – but little by little perhaps).
I’m not sure I could vote Conservative, cause frankly we are talking about voting for our favourite kind of illness. But really, I am starting to find that I loathe most left-wing politicians in Wales. The arrogance and authoritarianism is on a bizarre scale
The conservatives are left wing, the conservative MP for Bridgend’s biggest achievement is that he “changed his gender”, he openly celebrated this on twitter
The only party I see actually giving a poo about people was Reform, when they joined the protest in Llanelli against the illegals
Can you tinfoil twats go and talk about your conspiracy theories elsewhere? I hear there’s a site called 4chan that would be just perfect for you.
20mph roads is not a conspiracy theory, it has been rolled out already
A simple Google search would’ve told you this but keep burying your head in the sand and insulting others though
20mph – so when the light goes in a few head spaces, and cyclists as road users start exceeding the speed limits are they going to be persecuted/prosecuted like other road users, equality and Levelling Up etc? And when will small minds stop duming road use down and actually start raising driving/road use standards?
BAck on topic.
Unless mistaken, creating a connected britain is a national endevour (it should be for that £5B the gov is handing out to broad band providers) then it should not just be about ‘profitable’ areas it should be about UK (Geographic) covereage?
Or if you wanted a holistic (honest) view of progress is should about BOTH – population AND Geographc (completeness) of UK Covereage of gigabit? And Minimum Speeds (as hidden in the small print of contracts’ and not ‘headline’ ‘published’ values, that make things look better than many may realistically get?
Ditto for comparison sites, surely they should be providing the MSG that your postcode & address/line number?
I’d also moot that those rporting on broad band ‘progress’ shoudl also be monitoring for any decreases / trends on the state of existing service, e.g. trends by postcode etc that may be ‘silently’ suffereing reals world decreases, holistic ballance reporting? OfCom?
And those roll out dates for ‘outlying’ areas that nobody other than Open Reach are having to cater for? So covering the real state of the nations broadband (by MSGs).
Thoughts?
From my observations of this list in my area, a lot of the spines are already in. So I expect a deployment that is relatively fast.
Some of the larger exchanges on the list are going to further squeeze and expose the business plans of the altnets.
Its good to finally see some Leicestershire locations listed for being rolled out by Openreach, However instead of focussing on areas both urban and rural that do not get Gigabit provision by any supplier they have decided to go and cover the areas that CityFibre have just made live.
So areas like Oadby,Glenfield,Beaumont Leys etc will have Openreach,CityFibre and Virgin Media full fibre yet places like Kibworth, Thurcaston can just get Openreach FTTC
Its good to finally see some Leicestershire locations listed for being rolled out by Openreach, However instead of focussing on areas both urban and rural that do not get Gigabit provision by any supplier they have decided to go and cover the areas that CityFibre have just made live.
So areas like Oadby,Glenfield,Beaumont Leys etc will have Openreach,CityFibre and Virgin Media full fibre yet places like Kibworth, Thurcaston can just get Openreach FTTC
At last! Archer’s Court exchange listed. Let’s hope Netomnia are awake and can now finish the roads and premises they originally pledged to cover here, as BT will now do the grunt work for the “difficult” roads. I’d still rather a symmetric service at end of the day…
I wouldn’t count on it – if it is difficult OpenReach will leave it until the easier (cheaper) to install areas are all done.
But at least this might mean that BT will fix any issues issues with their ducts/poles (I for example have my phone line provided by UK Power Networks poles rather than ducts or a BT pole) which will hopefully then open the door to others coming behind them and using the clean ducts etc.
All depends on how difficult (costly) the issue is. Our road has no poles or ducts – the rest of the village has poles and been FTTP live for a year but we are not even planned. The build is finished for this exchange is the only information I can get. So best limit expectations of a 100% coverage of an area.
I find it very odd the Hamltion area is not being done, We do have VM & YouFibre but just feel like Openreach has forgotten about this area last thing we hard from them was back a couple of years ago regarding G.fast
The market is getting very crowded and many of the small alt nets will struggle to survive in my view
We have been through this in Tewkesbury total disregard for residents blocking driveways drilling and using properties to prop up their equipment, diggers on mobile phones then on a Sunday before 8am started again make sure you get warning of this disruptive work.
Interesting choice to pick York (City Centre) where UK Fibre Networks have deployed but stupidly priced while ignoring all the suburbs – guess they’ve decided to surrender them to CityFibre and nexFibre!
In a town that altnet started build 3/22, yet to reach me, OR started 4 months ago and fortunately have it now, alt net still 6 to 12 months away.
Whilst I’ve benefitted from this, got to agree, should fill in the gaps before over building.
In our small town if 239K, we have 2 alt nets as well as OR
It’s all PR, it means nothing. My town was announced over 2 years ago in one of these lists, still waiting for work to start, and Openreach are saying 2026 for completion, still 2 years away then, so if on time its 4 years since announcement.
I think they just release random towns and cities for the marketing, and it’s pot luck if it happens or not anytime soon.
As per usual No Midhurst
This was already announced
Not a single one in Dorset. It several in London which they should have all finished by now. Very strange way of doing things I find.
Think Openreach can’t win.
You’re confused because they haven’t covered all 8 million folks in London, others complain about how London and other cities are always first.
Broadstone is in Dorset last time I looked. Guess Poole is now it’s own county!
Not a single exchange in Cheshire, let alone my village exchange at Mollington. Notably, Openreach are now putting FTTP into the neighbouring (larger) village of Saughall, despite that village already having been fibred by Virgin Media some years ago.
Chris,
Have you contacted the digital lead at Cheshire West (Mike Dugine).
Mike.Dugine@cheshirewestandchester.gov.uk
If Mollington ( or any other villages in Cheshire West) are not in a commercially funded FTTP build plan, Mike may be able to help you set up a Community scheme funded with gigabit vouchers.
This rollout is so frustrating. Our town was announced in 2020, work still hasn’t started. Smaller Towns announced after us are joining the map as live in 12 months.
We have no alt net here, so it’s pretty evident that OR are running around chasing them. It makes more sense to rollout to an area where you’ll get 100% of custom than an area where you might only get 50%. You’ll increase the UKs overall Full Fibre footprint too…
Why rollout to an area where you have 100% of the captive market, when you can rollout somewhere else to protect 50% of the market?
You won’t though because nearly all Altnets are symmetrical, OR is not.
Hence they should protect what hasn’t left yet.
The mainstream consumer market isnt clamouring fur symmetric bandwidth. Openreach is already successfully competing head-on with altnets
Loanhead is not mentioned in any of the press announcements for some reason: however, if you download the updated plan from the map page, Loanhead is included in this update and has been marked as “building soon, services within 12 months”. Not sure why Openreach didn’t include it in the press announcements, considering Fairmilehead is mentioned and is orange on the map, and is virtually 5 minutes from the Loanhead exchange lol.
Poole isn’t a county, it’s on the side of the county where all government funds end up going that come to BCP area. Yet us in the west are still without anything above 60mbps
Most of the full fibre coverage in the BCP area is down to CityFibre and other altnets and definitely wasn’t built with government subsidy.
Even though they FTTP enable an area. They then refuse to deploy to individual streets. My own PR6 7PZ the first couple of houses have FTTP. The rest no plan. No alt net. No 5G no options 8Mb. With 1Mb uploads. How the heck can I work from home with openreach failing
Why is Openreach failing when there are so many altnets who could provide a service to you?
suggest you ask openreach for a cost to fibre your road then !!!!!
@The facts: Two wrongs don’t make it right! You are asking the wrong questions here/
@Fastman: End customers don’t deal with Openreach, they have to contact the ISPs. And yes, Tim is right, Openreach’s planning and rollout often is chaotic, the same is true for many altnets. The whole rollout framework needs to be properly regulated. Quite often, from my own observations, FTTP rollouts are frequently skipped for areas which don’t use poles.
Actually GNewton Openreach absolutely deal with end users on matters like this. There’s literally a section of their website devoted to it.
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fibre-community-partnership
No idea about the specifics, just pointing out you claimed someone else was wrong when, in fact, you were.
Once the infrastructure is ready to go customers deal with ISPs exclusively.
We’ve already get 1.1Gbps from VM in our area, Sure it might be HFC and not FTTP, But it’s very reliable and is lightning fast at all times and that’s what’s important to us.
It’s disappointing that our area of Wigan, or Wigan in general isn’t on the Openreach rollout list yet, but VM has plans to upgrade it’s entire existing HFC network to FTTP using the existing ducting, so we should be moved onto FTTP whenever that happens.
I wish The likes of Hyperopic would come to our area, as they’re cheaper than the big names and it’s 1gig up and down, rather than 1.1gb down and 104Mbps up.
I can’t believe OpenReach aren’t rolling out Full fibre to more areas sooner, with them wanting to rapidly move people over to Voip landlines from their PSTN.
Hyperoptic*
BT will make a commercial decision probably based on market research and the condition of the local network. They will go for the areas that they expect to give the greatest payback first
Why aren’t Openreach basing their whole strategy around [insert your postcode here]??? It’s so unfair!
LOL, absolutely. Openreach are going to be building up to at least 2030. Unfortunately someone’s going to be one who gets connected on the 31st December 2030. It obviously makes sense to take the low hanging fruit then go back and do the harder ones later on as the build.
I’d normally moan about not getting FTTP from Openreach when they originally rolled out on my exchange years ago and being left with sub 1mbps adsl or Virgin Media…. HOWEVER
Having sampled BT FTTP when living briefly in neighboring area of Kings Heath I was quite disappointed by the baseline latency and obviously the lack of upstream bandwidth (I know this is mostly commercial decision)….. BUT NOW…
Virgin Media 1100mbps service now has a 110mbps upstream and with the Hub 5 the latency is stable and fairly on par with Openreach FTTP products.
The fact that 2000/200 seems to be a switch flick away is also fairly interesting.
Thought my exchange might now finally appear given the altnets are about 50% coverage of the town (not me) and VM/Nexfibre are covering the area at lighten quick speed but no – still nothing.
A good few updates to already announced exchanges showing on the OR map as well. My little corner of Plymouth has just turned from black (building in the future) to amber (building soon, services available within 12 months). So that’s nice.
My part of Plymouth had no full fibre except VM… 2 years ago, in the space of 3 months Cityfibre and Òpenreach went live at start of 2022.
Nothing for where we live in Grantham. Much has FTTC, but we dont even have that. We are an urban area.
See the North-West London Exchange that my kit is attached to is listed in the current tranche.
I take it this announcement mainly relates to work to be done at the Exchanges.
All the “Heavy lifting” of fibre cable was done 8 years ago when they laid in FTTC in my area.
The costly bit is running fibre the 300 yards from the cabinet at the top of my street to my premises.
BT Wholesale broadband checker is still showing that for my location Fibre installation is still “On Demand” and that the exchange is still not a priority for FTTP.
No Nicholas there is a lot more work involved than what you think and it will take time and money to achieve it. Its highly unlikely that your FTTC cabinet would play any involved with a FTTP rollout in your area, the fibre cable to your PON splitter will come directly from the aggregation node.
https://www.telephone-exchange.co.uk/South-Harrow-LWSHAR.html#:~:text=Located%20at%20%3A-%20British%20Telecom%2C%20Telephone%20Exchange%2C%20Northolt,Extend%20Clash%20South%20Harrow%20-%3E%20London%20-%3E%20London
The above website says FTTP is already available at the exchange and the attached Google image bears the note that the building is temporarily closed. The exchange is half a mile from me, behind the Cop-shop . . . . which is also closed.
Looks like both sites are chalked-up for housing re-development (All the rage up here at the moment beause of the proximity and tube travel time to central London). I wonder where the aggregation node will go with no exchange building . . underground ? They did dig-up Northolt Road, leading to the exchange, at the time the FTTC roadside cabinets went in. Horrendous to think they might have to dig-it up all again and lay-in an underground aggregation node (I take it they are too big for the roadside cable treatment)!
If that’s the case, no wonder it will cost.
Aggregation nodes live in underground chambers, yes.
South Harrow exchange isn’t closed but isn’t a public building either. It has had Huawei FTTP-ready equipment in it since 2010, has FTTC cabinets connected to it and lots of third party equipment in it, as you’d expect for a handover exchange.
Would be nice if they finished the builds that are “largely complete” – was just told yesterday that despite repeated assurances that our build would begin in January 2024 it now has been shelved again.
At this stage it is obvious they are hanging on for BDUK funds to subsidise the build where they’ve done the low hanging fruit.
BT map is just plain inaccurate. I have had Vodafone Openreach fibre for a year and my area is still marked as Grey.
Some areas have pockets of FTTP already done, but vast majority on an exchange are still shown as grey. My mother’s address is like that. She is in sticks and was done in 2019 – map still shows black/grey as “future” because it shows the area by exchange coverage which she is in, but she was fortunate enough to have it done mainly because of horrendous ADSL stability and line length.
Today’s Openreach briefing slides are up now
https://www.bt.com/bt-plc/assets/documents/investors/financial-reporting-and-news/quarterly-results/fy24/openreach-briefing/openreach-business-briefing-dec23.pdf
Thanks for the link.
Interesting to see how much cheaper FTTP is to maintain compared to copper.
Also the fact that fixed line broadband connections have stagnated, means that anyone gaining customers will be taking them from someone else.
Then there’s the approx 4 million premises per year predicted rollout for the next three financial years, compared to say, CityFibre’s current 3 million in total to date.
Why on earth don’t they finish the areas they have already started. I have streets either side of me with fttp but not my street.
A scattergun approach is just not going to work well, it may allow them to tick off towns on a list as started but it’s at the expense of the customer.
Some areas are still struggling with very low speeds but Open reach won’t upgrade cabinets because it will take away resources from developing fttp. I get that but surely get everyone on a decent speed before allowing some on super fast and some on basically dial up.
MJ Quinns are taking over all the copper repairs, this will free up openreach engineers to focus on the fibre build.
The World . . . as seen by Marketing and Public Relations departments . . . . almost invariably at odds with what the mass experience is. I wonder why ?
Witness the DASH/HLS and DAB DAB+ debacles in the internet and radio industries.
DASH/HLS debacle? Please elaborate?
Cool thing about Internet, a bunch of stuff is software so no VHS/Betamax thing as no fixed hardware to adhere to. Easy to cater to both at the server side.
‘Marketting & CPR, mere spin, risk assessed legally to lean shreholders by the nose, #1 priority of a ceo keep shareholders happy, #2 ensure execs benifits (self) work for my exit at the expense of the workers, one of the Co’s ‘resources’, #3 where am I going next.
Honesty, social morality, TBC.
Thank God for the altnets. I’m served by Colindale and thanks to Community Fibre have had full fibre for nearly three years.
Colindale still isn’t in OR’s build plans.
I worked for BT from the early 70,s utill early 2k. We had a fault on the line that open reach would not fix. They blamed the fault on a long line issue the line was OK before fault. I fought with them for a number of months to resolve the issue but they would not work with me to resolve fault or let explain to the engineers the issue. This resulting in BT asking me to terminate my service. I now use a 4g router and would never go back to the company I worked for.
I would like to know the criteria for which exchanges get upgraded. The ones either side have/being upgraded but not ours. One of the exchanges serves a village that doesn’t even have mains gas but has ultrafst broadband. Explain that one
Commercially funded projects will be at the infrastructure providers discression. They are unlikely to make those policies public.
Other projects maybe funded from local or central government, or privately funded by communities or developers.
Without knowing the specifics of your interest it’s impossible to speculate
Mill Hill, Barnet finally listed for BT Fibre build … however, OpenInfra have just deployed round here, with Optyx as the ISP. It’s been great so far! Not sure what BTOR will actually build … unless it’s filling in the odd house that didn’t take up the initial deployment
I saw “Barnet” and got excited for a moment, when I realised they meant the town, rather than the council. Still – Mill Hill is one along from Finchley Central, so hoping it might eventually come to us.
Not much in East of England this time around.
In at least one “upscale” area the former altnet Upp aka FibreMe (now a brand of NexFibre ie Virgin) may get there first to retrofix existing housing (new housing getting FTTP by default from Openreach or developer)
Old Hatfield here and MDU still saying we are not planning to come there.. it’s 2 years that I’ve been trying to get something.. no virgin no fiber, just 50MBs/s copper..
They say they will start building in the next 12 months but it doesn’t say where.
I’ve received an email from Hyperoptic saying “we are coming in your area” but they didn’t give any information because need to be still planned… hopefully someone will install here >.>